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10 | Carey Nieuwhof on AI, Authenticity & the Future Church

August 13, 2026

In this episode, Ashley LaLonde and David Kinnaman sit down with Carey Nieuwhof, bestselling author, podcaster, and founder of the Art of Leadership Academy, to explore new Barna data on AI and the church—including that 41% of pastors say AI has helped them with Bible comprehension and study. Together, they unpack why authenticity and a pastor's own voice matter more than ever in an AI-assisted sermon, Carey's litmus test for when AI use has gone too far ("if you're uncomfortable disclosing how you use it, you're probably overusing it"), and why the church may be the last truly human place in an increasingly artificial world. Plus, a bonus conversation between David and Pushpay CEO Kenny Wyatt discussing Barna's newest study with Pushpay, Technology for Missional Impact.Episode Links